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11:59 - Richard Seltzer
Hi, Doris. Where are you? What's your business? What's your
interest in voice recognition?
11:59 - Bob Fleischer
I visited the exhibits at SpeechTEK 2001 in NYC last Friday -- L&H
certainly had one of the more interesting booths. Of course, then I
read a review that lists all of L&H's woes.
12:00 - Bob Zwick
I'm an independent consultant involved in Distance Education. I'm
interested in finding out if voice to text software can be used to
make a transcript of an Audio chat session.
12:00 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- Please introduce yourself as well, and tell us about your
role at Lernout*Hauspie, and tell us something about what you have
available now and how people use your products and where you expect
to take this to in the next stage. (That's a tall order. Just dive
in with what feels comfortable as a starting point. Thanks.)
12:00 - Bob Fleischer
I'm particularly interested in speech on handheld devices (such as
12:01 - David
This is David, and Im a consultant, but am primarily interested in
speech as applied from a server perspective
12:02 - doris (Re: 11:59 - Richard Seltzer
'Hi, Doris. Where are you?
What's your business? What's your...')
I'm just a student who is interested in knew technologies. I'd like
to know if the product is Mac compatible
12:02 - Bill D.
good afternoon Richard, to work in the product management
organization here at Lernout & Hauspie, where I oversee
development for all of speech and language products including the
Dragon NaturallySpeaking product line.
12:18 - Hibbspc
sorry to be late...breakfast meeting
12:20 - Richard Seltzer
John -- welcome. I'd think that you'd be very interested in how to
tie voice recognition into telephone-related apps.
12:02 - Richard Seltzer
Bob -- From the little I've used Dragon's Naturally Speaking 5, I
suspect that this wouldn't be good for transcribing an audio chat
session. You train the software to understand your voice. The more
you train the better it gets. But it would be very difficult for
the software to deal with multiple voices in normal conversation.
12:20 - Bob Zwick
Richard - how much training time (hours) does it take to get accurate
12:21 - Richard Seltzer
Bob -- I can't make an accurate estimate of time at this point.
Need to test and train some more. Right now, I find it most useful
in a mixed mode -- at least when composing. I can speak and do
corrections/edits/change-of-minds manually as I go along, with
keyboard and mouse.
12:20 - Bill D.
Richard, in addition to training Dragon NaturallySpeaking (which
for native speaker is less than 20 minutes) is also very helpful to
allow the program to scan your written documents such as Microsoft
Word or some of your sent to e-mail. By allowing this software to
scan your existing documents it can extend its vocabulary and
understand your writing style for how you combine words and phrases
12:22 - Bob Zwick
Bill D. - that is very usefull. Acuracy can get pretty good if it
memorized my speach habits.
12:22 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- that's an interesting twist -- training the system using
your words, rather than someone else's words; because what matters
isn't just your voice, but also your writing style and vocabulary.
12:22 - Bill D.
Richard, Dragon NaturallySpeaking comes in many versions or
"flavors" as we call them :) that sell at different price points
with different levels of functionality. The Essentials product you
mention is our entry-level speech recognizer which is quite good
for dictating into rich-text fields, like this chat session. E also
sell higher and versions of the product, which allow it to be
tightly integrated with office productivity applications such as MS
office or Corel. This will allow users extended command and control
be able to speech enable all of those productivity applications.
12:26 - Bill D.
Richard, this notion of training the system both through training
scripts and allowing a to read your documents is an excellent
combination. Perhaps the most frequently overlooked aspect of
training is allowing it to read old documents. Your writing style
and my writing style do differ in the speech recognizer will make
accommodations for that as well as extended its vocabulary for
unique terms and phrases that you using your business. in version 6
of Dragon NaturallySpeaking we made major changes to how the
product improves accuracy by creating what we call an "Accuracy
Center". This accuracy center, combines all aspects of training,
microphone tuning, and vocabulary extension.
12:28 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- what are the system requirements for all this sophisticated
training? how much disk space is the data likely to require? I
presume that the voice you speak in training is automatically
deleted afterward and only the results are saved. But does that
data take up significant space?
12:30 - Bill D.
Richard, Dragon NaturallySpeaking, like most speech recognition
products, is a fairly resource intensive application. The minimum
system requirements for Dragon NaturallySpeaking are: a Pentium II
processor, and 64 MB of RAM. Dispatch's requirements can dairy but
a minimum of 110 MB is required in depending on the extent of your
audiophile capture, this can rise to close to 300 MB.
12:23 - Richard Seltzer
All -- When you make corrections, you can also go into a training
mode to teach the software particular expressions that you use
often -- and how to spell them (e.g., the name of your company).
The more often you do that, the better the results. And once
trained, you really can speak at a normal pace -- which is faster
than I can type.
12:25 - Richard Seltzer
All -- keep in mind that once you launch Dragon and turn on its
microphone, your voice input becomes text output in a wide variety
of applications -- whichever you current have as active. (It seems
to work best with WordPad, but email and chat, etc. are also
12:16 - Richard Seltzer
All -- when you are dictating into a document, there are a wide
range of commands available, so you can speak not only text, but
what to do with the text (like deleting and capitalizing and going
back and selecting -- the full ranage; if you get into this, you
don't need to type anything. You can even use voice to launch new
applications, like Internet Explorer.
12:17 - Richard Seltzer
All -- while you can speak commands, personally, I find the
application much more useful and efficient if you mix and match.
You can type and speak and click -- using whatever method is
simplest for what you are doing -- e.g., speak, then click and type
to make corrections (instead of doing that by voice).
12:17 - Bill D.
Richard, in addition to the commanding control you mention, Dragon
NaturallySpeaking can also be scripted or programmed to perform
automated tasks such as form-filling applications and working with
P.S. I am dictating this transcription with Dragon NatSpeak
12:31 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- are you speaking all of your input? or just occasionally?
To give John Hibbs and others here a clearer sense of how good the
accuracy can be (given that you are using a high-end version and
have probably fine-tuned it to your voice and speak peculiarities).
12:02 - TomHo
I do interviews on video. I'd like a system I can use to transcribe
the recordings. Do you have something that would be effective?
12:03 - Bill D.
Tom, currently we do not have a technology that can transcribe a
video recording as you mentioned. We do have a technology using
speech recognition that can index and allow you to search for words
and phrases against multiple videos or audio streams.
12:05 - Bob Zwick
Richard - I suppose even me reading the text transcript would be
faster than my typing it :-)
12:07 - Richard Seltzer
Bob Zwick -- That's an interesting possibility -- but if you already have
a text transcript, why would you be using voice recognition to
12:08 - Bob Zwick
Richard - the text is only part of the audio chat. I suppose I
could transcribe my audio and cut and paste the audience text
12:10 - Richard Seltzer
Bob -- I think that if you try it, you will find interesting ways
to take advantage of it, but not necessarily the kinds of things
you are thinking of now. NB -- I got my 5.0 version (Essentials) for under $50
from Broderbund. And it included a great high-quality microphone. Incredible price.
A significantly better version (Preferred) now sells for $179.99.
12:12 - Richard Seltzer
As an example of how well voice recognition can work and a very
useful application, go to www.lhsl.com (their Web site), under
About, go to their contact information. And give them a phone call.
One of the first options is to go to their directory. There you
simple state the name of the person you want to speak to and the
system rings their line. Very slick. And the voice that speaks back
at you, repeating the name that you spoke, sounds natural, not
12:09 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- I believe that it is difficult for those who haven't used
voice recognition to understand both the limitations and the
possibilities. Could you please describe some business applications
that you know of?
12:13 - Bill D.
Richard, most of the business applications for speech recognition
have to do with large volumes of text creation what we call
document creation services. Speech recognition's main benefit is
productivity: it is faster to talk than to type.therefore you see
higher volumes of speech recognition use in legal departments,
government agencies, in various medical and General business
practices where large amounts of document creation is done.
12:13 - Bob Zwick
Richard - are you "speaking" the text we are seeing ?
12:13 - Richard Seltzer
Bob -- I was trying voice input to this area just before this
session started and ran into a few problems -- but they were my
problems, not problems with the software. I suspect that it would
be best (if trying that) to click Pause before inputting, otherwise
the automatic refresh gets in the way. I still have to play around and
experiment some more to be able to speak-input here. Though it does
seem to be possible. Bill -- are you speaking or typing now? If you
are set up to speak, could you try that a bit so people get a sense
of what the output would look like (with some random and inexact
words every now and then).
12:15 - Bob Zwick
Richard - ahh.... automation getting in the way of automation :)
12:17 - Bob Zwick
Richard - do you see this as the new way for authors to write their
12:18 - Richard Seltzer
Bob -- I'd like to experiment with this for writing -- fiction and
articles. I need to do some more training though. The more you
train the app the more accurate it is and hence the less time you
have to spend making corrections. Think of this like scanning --
you always need to proofread text that you've scanned -- only this
is more like dealing with an early generation scanner when errors
were more common.
12:26 - Richard Seltzer
I see this as a possible godsend for someone with carpal tunnel
syndrome or arthritis, also for slow typers, also allowing
handsfree use of the computer when you have to do many things at
the same time.
12:28 - Richard Seltzer
Bill, can you please tell us about other creative business uses of this technology?
John -- Transcription is just one of many possibilities. You can
also set this up to understand commands, etc.
12:37 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- the more business applications you can tell us about the
better. I'm sure there are important uses out there that I never
12:50 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- is there any place at the L&H Web site with demos or at
least descriptions of a variety of business applications? Where
should we go to learn more?
12:54 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- Is there a good place for people to see/experience demos of
a variety of business apps or at least read about them?
13:00 - Bill D.
Richard, yes there are several examples on our web site and I would
also point you to the section called value added resellers (VAR.).
Many of these folks, have done all kinds of interesting
applications based on Dragon NaturallySpeaking.
13:00 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- thanks. I'll have to take a close look at that VAR section.
Great stuff. Thanks again.
12:03 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- following up on the question from Doris -- are your
products PC-only? Or do they work with Macs as well?
12:04 - Bill D.
Doris, currently all of the Dragon applications are at its
PC-based. We did not have products for the Macintosh platform.
12:05 - doris (Re: 12:04 - Bill D. 'Doris,
currently all of the
Dragon applications are at its...')
Thank you, that effectively eliminates me
12:03 - Bob Zwick
Richard - I wonder just how bad multiple voices would be.
12:04 - Richard Seltzer
Bob Zwick -- I think you'd have to experiment to know for sure. But I
wouldn't have very high hopes. On the other hand, this could be
very good for transcribing any voice that is a single voice, if the
speaker had previously "trained" the software.
12:03 - Bob Fleischer
I believe L&H has products that are speaker independent and
intended for converting large volumes of audio to text, right?
12:06 - Bill D.
Bob F., Lernout & Hauspie does not currently sell a product that is
speaker independant which would allow you to transcribe large
volumes of audio and text. In our research labs we are working on
just this problem and it's a derivative of a large vocabulary
speaker engine like Dragon.
12:07 - TomHo (Re: 12:03 - Bill D. 'Tom, currently
we do not have a
technology that can...')
Bill, What is the name of the software you mentioned?
12:08 - Ray Dee (Re: 12:07 - TomHo 'Bill, What
is the name of the
software you mentioned?...')
Tom Ho -- Do you know of a similar system?
12:08 - Bill D.
Tom H. The product used to indexed Digital media is called
MediaIndexer we shipped our first version of this product in July
2:25 - Hibbspc
I was thinking that Dragon was more like the text you see on t.v.
where the voices are transcribed "on the fly" for the hearing
impaired. Is that part of what your company offers?
12:28 - Hibbspc
I was hopeful to see "it" this way - during events, have the
software "listen" to the speakers for automatic, instant text
traslations which were (either or both) uploaded in the original
language and/or machine translated into other languages. No?
12:28 - Bob Zwick
BillD. - does Rush Limbaugh use you product to see what his radio
callin people are saying ?
12:28 - Bill D.
Hibbspc, No, the Teleprompter unit to see on television is
typically done manually by human beings. Naturally speech
recognition is being looked at to augment this process and allow it
to fully transcribed feature like broadcasts.Currently, there are
some research challenges we have to overcome, such as music
overlays with spoken text: which really confuse the speech
12:31 - Hibbspc
Is the bottom line, at least for now that each individual speaker
has to "train" the software, otherwise the text is hopelessly
12:33 - Richard Seltzer
John Hibbs -- Yes, I'd say that the training is absolutely
essential, at least at today's level of development. What's your
take on that, Bill?
12:34 - Bill D.
Hibbspc, large vocabulary recognition products, like Dragon
NaturallySpeaking, do require training. The notion of speaker
independent recognition, is probably several years away. We work
extensively here in our research department on just this problem
and have reasonable accuracy for certain applications but we are
not prepared to make this commercially available today.
12:39 - Hibbspc
As I understand it, we could not take our audio archives and run
thrm through Dragon and expect to have a reasonably accurate
transcription of the dialogue? n our case, the audio was capture d over the telephone and
"delivered" directly to the p.c. where it (remains) stored. That
audio would not be transcribealbe - not that I am sure anyone wants
12:41 - Richard Seltzer
John -- I think that the main consideration would be whether there
was one voice or multiple voices. If one voice, then it's possible.
But the more different voices, the lower the accuracy, quickly
deteriorating to useless. Is that accurate, Bill?
12:40 - Bill D.
Hibbspc, yes, search for a product called PowerScribe.
12:41 - Hibbspc
thanks re jpowerscribe
12:34 - Bob Zwick
What about the high end product mentioned earlier. The
one that is used for mass transcription?
Bill can you tell us a little more about that product?
12:42 - Bill D.
Richard, multi-voice transcription is still a ways off (probably
two to three years) what we can do today, is index a multi-voice
audio file. With the product I mentioned earlier, MediaIndexer
12:43 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- Are you working with any of the Web search sites or
producers of search software to make it possible to index voice
content and therefore make it searchable? e.g., are you working
12:46 - Bill D.
Richard, yes, we have spoken with various Web content sites who
have digital audio content that would like it to be indexed and
made searchable. we also talking with various General business, and
universities, who may have training video content.
12:47 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- You might also want to check with the folks at Vanderbilt
U. who have an archive of all the network news shows on television
from back in the days of the Viet Nam War. Indexing the voice of an
archive like that could be very useful. Also indexing the many
audio files stored by the Library of Congress.
12:05 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- if the individual who recorded the voice also had
previously "trained" the software to his/her voice, wouldn't that
kind of transcription be possible?
12:29 - Hibbspc
Where can I see this work in a real live demonstration. You
mentioned Rush Limbaugh - does he use it some way?
12:29 - Richard Seltzer
Bob -- I strongly doubt that Rush could use this that way. It's the
same problem -- a random caller wouldn't have had a chance to train
the system, hence the accuracy of the recognition would be
frustratingly low. Is that right, Bill?
12:30 - Hibbspc
re: 12.28 thanks..that helps. Bill was H&L working on that before
the big money problems?
12::32 - Bill D.
Bob Z. I am not aware that Rush Limbaugh uses Dragon
NaturallySpeaking. however given his current condition it may be of
some use.However, telephone recognition is not merely as accurate
as that through direct microphone imput.
12:40 - Bob Zwick
Does the input to DragonSpeak have to be a mic ? Can input be
redirected from software ie. Real Audio, or audio file players.
12:42 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- yes, I'm curious too. Is there a way (with your consumer
products) of feeding a different audio source (other than a mic)
into the voice recognition software.
12:44 - Bill D.
Richard, in addition to correct microphone transcription (like I'm
doing right now) Dragon NaturallySpeaking can transcribe recorded
audio file such as WAV files. these WAV. files will have to be
recorded by someone who is trained on the system i.e. someone that
went through Dragon training.That would be the extent of its
12:46 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- Does it have to be WAV files? Those can easily be enormous
-- aobut ten times the size of MP3. Would MP3 files work?
12:49 - Bill D.
Richard, yes even though they are large, WAV files are currently
the only format that we support: no MP3.
12:45 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- as an interim measure, if a limited number of people are
typically involved in voice conversations that need to be
transcribed, is it possible for each member of that small group to
train the software to their voices and styles, and then for the
system to recognize the speaker and adjust automatically, or for
the speakers to start what they say with their name as a way of
shifting the software to their profile? Do you have anything like
that now? or are you working on it?
12:46 - Bob Zwick
Richard - that would be an interesting experiment. I could train
your software for my voice from an audio chat room.
12:48 - Richard Seltzer
Bob -- yes, that would be an interesting experiment. But we'd want
the software to be able to switch from looking for one speaker
profile to another as speakers changed in the course of a
12:47 - Bill D.
Richard, just clarify the abilities of Dragon NaturallySpeaking; it
currently cannot do multi-voice transcriptions, even if they are
trained voices. We do not have the ability to extract separate
voice profiles from 1 audio stream.
12:49 - Bob Zwick
Bill D. - I understand that (no multi-voice), but can a system have
multiple personallities that can be activated ?
12:49 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- Understood that what I'm speculating about now isn't
current possible. But shouldn't it be possible to add a voice
command to your command file that would change speaker profiles? So
a new speaker could give that command and hence be understood?
Feels like a short-term development project that could be useful.
12:50 - Bill D.
Bob, yes Dragon NaturallySpeaking can support many voice profiles
with one piece of software. Typically it is licensed to one
individual who may have several voice files recorded for different
types of microphones, environments where they may record, or for
12:51 - Richard Seltzer
Bill, I think that what Bob was looking for (me too), was a way to
shift from one profile to another, on the fly.
12:52 - Bob Zwick
Bill D. - that's great. Can mutiple instances of the program be
running on a system too?
12:32 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- how long have you been working in the voice recognition
field? I remember Solzenitsyn's First Circle and what it had to say
about voice prints. Also, Gordon Bell, who was Digital's computer
guru back in the 1970s and early 80s began his computing career
focusing on voice recognition, but got out of it when he realized
how very very difficult it was to do it well.
12:52 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- Thinking again of First Circle by Solzhenitsy, does the
training with Dragon generate some kind of a voice print? Could
well-trained dragon software be used determine that a speaker was
in fact who he/she said he/she was?
12:54 - Bill D.
Richard, the "voiceprint" you mention is something we refer to in
the industry as speaker verification: an example of biometric
technology. This is separate and distinct from Dragon
NaturallySpeaking and we sell technologies in the speaker
verification space to be used for identifying users for security
12:54 - Bob Fleischer
There are a number of vendors who sell the terchnology and service
for voice authentication -- DNS may not be the tool for it, but it
12:56 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- I'd think that that speaker verification software could be
combined with your Naturally Speaking to recognize when speakers
change in multi-speaker situations -- but that's probably years in
12:57 - Richard Seltzer
Bob Fleischer -- in a short while we'll be identifiable in so many
ways it's ridiculous (DNA too). I bet it would be possible to
profile someone based on their typing style and the vocabulary they
use in typing, so you could know that the person who is in the chat
room is in fact the person he/she says...
2:34 - Hibbspc
ah, the "telephone recognition" area was where my talks centered
about 24 months ago..I guess that has not moved forward very
much...understandable as I would think very low demand for same.
12:37 - Bill D.
Hibbspc: actually, telephone recognition has made great strides the
last several years. We in fact have developed a product
specifically for medical transcription. It is sold through a
special distribution channel to the medical profession. It allows
for telephone based transcription of medical analysis.the problem
of telephone based recognition becomes very manageable if you can
limit what is called the domain i.e if I know what you are going to
talk about my degree of accuracy will improve dramatically.
12:38 - Hibbspc
Bill, that product you talked about for the medical industry..is
that on your web site?
12:38 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- in that medical transcription application, do you mean that
if you limit the vocabulary -- the allowed words -- then the need
to train to a particular voice goes down considerably?
12:39 - Bill D.
Richard, mobile transcription, for instance capturing recordings on
digital audio is best done with a high-quality machine to begin
with. There is no need to send the audio file through a microphone
for transcription if it's captured at first high-quality manner it
can be transcribed directly against the speech recognizer without
going through microphone imput.
12:40 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- aside from the medical, do you have other examples of
multi-voice but limited vocabulary applications? (perhaps the voice
recognition built into the phone system at L&H is an example like
12:06 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- I understand that your consumer products, like the one I
purchased, are now sold by Broderbund. Do you still handle the
development of the whole Dragon line -- including consumer?
12:07 - Bob Zwick
Can you point us to where we can find out more about L&H ?
12:07 - Bill D.
Richard, all development of Dragon products are done here at
Lernout & Hauspie; the Broderbund relationship you mentioned is
purely a retail distributor relationship.
12:08 - Bob Fleischer
www.lhsl.com is mentioned in the literature I got at SpeechTEK
12:20 - Hibbspc
What was the impact of L&H going under due to the problems in
Europe with the buy out? are you now completely independent?
operating out of bankruptcy?
12:08 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- I understand that you just came out with a new version of
Naturally Speaking -- 6.0. How does that differ from 5.0? Is it
just a matter of improved quality of voice recognition? Or are
there functions you can perform with it that you couldn't with 5.0?
12:11 - Bill D.
Richard, the new version of Dragon NaturallySpeaking, version
6.will be available later this month. As with all new versions of
speech recognition it does have significant accuracy improvements
and new features such as "Nothing but Speech" which allows speech
recognizer to ignore extraneous sounds like "ahhs" and "Umms" that
we all do what I natural conversation.
12:19 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- Excellent. How does Dragon NatSpeak differ from the
bare-bones, consumer software (Naturally Speaking 5.0, Essentials)
that I'm using?
12:11 - Bob Fleischer
I also noticed at the show that Sony was pitching a line of digital
memo recorders that could produce input directly to DNS.
12:15 - Bill D.
Bob F. , Lernout & Hauspie has a development relationship with Sony
where we have done extensive work on speech recognition integration
with their digital audio recorders. Dragon NaturallySpeaking can
transcribed any high-quality WAV. file, assuming the user has been
trained for the system.
12:34 - Richard Seltzer
Bob -- yes, the microphone matters a lot too. You need a good one
(which comes with the software), and you need to place it right and
consistently (with a headset -- the mouth being a consistent
distance from your mouth). Other pointers, Bill?
12:35 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- given the importance of the microphone and positioning of
the microphone, would it make sense for an author to record/dictate
onto cassette (virtually anywhere) and then play the cassette into
a mic/PC running Dragon in order to get a rough transcript?
12:34 - Hibbspc
My 84 year old mother, now nearly blind and good typist, but no
longer...is she your market?
12:37 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- do the blind or people whose sight is failing use this
product? I suspect it would be difficult for them, because of the
need to read the screen to check for errors and correct them. On
the other hand, it would be great for anyone who has trouble typing
-- either just plain slow or due to arthritis, etc. I'm thinking of
giving this to my mother (81) who is having increasing difficulty
dealing with a keyboard.
12:50 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- What do you see as the most important/useful directions for
future development (aside from dealing with multiple voices)?
12:52 - Bill D.
Richard, the biggest research tasks we have with speech
recognition, is to make it far more natural. Several things we are
looking at along these lines include: automatic punctuation,
speaker independence (no training), and of course multi-voice
conversation as you mentioned.
12:53 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- I'm really amazed at what is possible today -- and at an
affordable price. I had thought that this technology was much
farther from prime time. I had thought that only applications with
severely limited vocabularies made sense today. I'm looking forward
to experimenting more with my version 5.0.
12:56 - Bill D.
Bob, Dragon NaturallySpeaking will work with virtually any Windows
based application. Any application that allows for standard text
imput can be speech enabled with Dragon NaturallySpeaking. We
specifically add commanding control functions, for limited set of
office productivity applications, Web tools, and various e-mail
12:58 - Bob Zwick
Bill D. - that's interesting. I could be speaking in one audio chat
room and have it transcribed into another text chat room !
12:58 - Richard Seltzer
Bob Zwick and others -- the command capabilities of this software
seem to make it natural for embedding it, combining it with other
Windows apps in creative ways. I'd love to learn more about what
has already been done along that line. Anything like that at your
Web site, Bill?
12:59 - Richard Seltzer
Bob Zwick -- I could imagine that combination of audio and voice
chat being very useful -- even with PalTalk -- to talk and have
what you say automatically entered in the text chat window. Would
be great for Global Learn Day next year so folks without voice
output could still get a pretty good sense of what's going on.
12:55 - Richard Seltzer
All -- we're just about at the end of the hour. Please, before
signing off, enter your email and URL addresses so we can keep in
touch. And please join us again next Thursday. Bill and all, thanks
very much for joining us today.
12:57 - Bob Zwick
Bob Zwick http://www.cottagemicro.com/coinfo/contact.htm
12:57 - Bill D.
Richard, it has been a pleasure, thanks so much for inviting me.
This is the first chat session where a been so actively involved.
It's been fun! My e-mail address is BDESTEFANIS@LHSL.COM
13:00 - Richard Seltzer
Bill, thanks again. All -- time to wrap up. Yes, do please enter
your contact info here before signing off.
13:01 - Bill D.
Richard, thank you, when a transcription of this conversation is
posted please let me know thanks again Bill DeStefanis
13:02 - Richard Seltzer
Bill -- Will do. Thanks again.
13:02 - Bob Zwick
Richard - be sure to listen to my interview on TheReport.Com AM
Radio on Nov. 13 6:30 PM EST
13:03 - Richard Seltzer
Bob Zwick -- Glad to hear that you hooked up with Bill and Dave.
Yes, I will try to tune in.
13:05 - Bob Zwick
I really like the multiple personalities. I can ahve one for a
phone bridge, a mic, an audio chat room and mp3 files !
13:06 - Bob Zwick
13:06 - Richard Seltzer
Bob -- Interesting idea. Yes, that should improve the accuracy of
the transcriptions. You ought to give it a try.
13:06 - Bob Zwick
13:06 - Richard Seltzer
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