Ancestor surfing

The line Seltzer-Estes-Bates-Fleming-Graham-Keith

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1 Adela Rose Seltzer b. Nov. 9, 2007

daughter of

2 Robert Richard Hartley Seltzer b. July 29, 1975 md.  Aug. 10, 2002 in Boston, MA Stacey Denenberg b. July 18, 1976
2 Heather Katherine Hartley Seltzer b. August 13, 1977
2 Michael Richard Hartley Seltzer b. June 14, 1980
2 Timothy Richard Hartley Seltzer b. Oct. 5, 1989

children of

3 Richard Warren Seltzer, Jr. b. Feb. 23, 1946, md. July 28, 1973 in Boston, MABarbara Hartley b. Feb. 20, 1950

Richard = son of

4 Helen Estes b. Jan. 31, 1920 md. June 5, 1944 in Philadelphia, PA Richard Warren Seltzer, Sr. b. June 5, 1923

Helen = daughter of

5 Smith William Estes  b. June 17, 1881 d. 1943 md. in Philadelphia, PA  1905 May Griffith (1883-1930)

Smith = son of

6 Louis Powhatan Estes (Nov. 22, 1849 - Sept. 6, 1902) md. Oct. 30, 1875 Lily Yates Moore (May 13, 1853 - March 8, 1929) (daughter of S.W. Moore and Mary Yates)

Louis = son of

7 Albert Monroe Estes (Nov. 19, 1804 in Bedford County, VA - Dec. 22, 1863 in Haywood County, TN) md. Nov. 17, 1848 Mildred Colman (daughter of Dr. Benjamin Colman and Mildred Wharton of New Jersey) (c. 1823- Nov. 30, 1849)

Albert = son of

8 Sarah Langhorne Bates (1781- 1825 near Brownsville, Haywood County, TN)  md. Oct. 13, 1801 in Chesterfield County, VA Joel Estes (1780-1833) (son of Benjamin Estes and Cecelia Rebecca Thorpe)

Sarah = daughter of

9 Daniel Bates (July 6, 1756 - c. 1801) md. May 21, 1776 in Chesterfield County, VA  Elizabeth Cary Bell ( b. about 1758 in Virginia, d. 1825 in Kentucky) daughter of David Bell and Judith Cary

Daniel = son of

10 James Bates (March 7, 1721 - Nov. 9, 1786) md. Nov. 11, 1746 in Goochland County, St. James Wortham parish, VA Winnifred Grymes or Grimes or Hix (b. Jan. 18, 1729 in Goochland)

James = son of

11 Susannah Tarleton Fleming md. about 1709 John Bates (1685-1723)

Susannah = daughter of

12 Charles Fleming (b. 1667) (of New Kent County, VA) md. Susannah Tarleton (d. 1687) (daughter of Stephen Tarleton)

Charles = son of

13 John Fleming (? may have emigrated from England to Virginia d. April 27, 1686 in New Kent County, VA, St. Peter's Parish Register) According to "Fleming Family" by Lyon G. Tyler, William and MaryQuarterly Vol. 12, 1093, pp. 45-47, "I think he was the father of Charles Fleming who md. Susannah ___.  She was probably a daughter of Stephen Tarleton."  John Fliming, 493 acres in New Kent County on south side of Yorke River 2 march 1661 per page 397 Parent Book No. 4.

Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, Vol.XLV (1937) p. 64 "Judith Fleming was daughter of Charles Fleming and Susannah Tarleton.  The first of her family in Virginia was Thomas Fleming who md. Miss Tarleton of England (of the same famly as Colonel Banastre Tarlton, the noted British Cavalry officer of the time of the American Revolution) and emigrated to Virginia in 1616.  he left three sons and several daugthers.  The sons were Tarleton, John, and Charles." p. 95 "Elizabeth Champe md. William Fleming; he was the son of Colon John Fleming (1697-1766) of 'Mount Pleasant' and Mary Kennon Bolling of 'Cobbs,' and the gradson of Charles Fleming ( b. 1667) who ws third in descent from Sir John Fleming who was the first Earl of Wigton in Scotland."

[Cary-Estes Genealogy pp. 86-87, which notes "This genealogy from Judith [Fleming] to Lilias Graham was secured by Mr. E.s. Lewis, Genealogist, 1937."]

John = son of

14 Thomas Fleming (?emigrated from England to Virginia in 1616) md. Miss Tarleton of England

Thomas = son of

15 Lilias Graham md. Lord John Fleming (1567-1619) 6th Lord Fleming,  first Earl of Wigton in Scotland from 1606 [His line]
"Biggar and the House of Fleming" by William Hunter, F.S.a. Scot. Pages 551-552, 557:
"Lord Fleming married Lady Lilias Graham, a daughter of John, Earl of Montrose.  Her ladyship was distinguished for her piety and devotion and her zealous efforts to prmoote the principles of the Reformation.  Livingstone, in his 'Characterisitcs' says of her, 'When I was a child I have often seen her at my father's at the preachings and communions.  While dressing she read the Bible, and every day at that time shed more tears (said one) than ever I did in my life.'"
"The Earl died in April 1619 leaving three sons and five daughters and was succeeded by his eldes son John who warmly embraced his mother's ecclesiastical opinions and was as zealous of the cause of Presbyterianism as his forefathers had been in the maintenance of Popery.
"He married Margaret, daughter of Alexander Livingstone, first Earl of Linlithgow, a lady of amiable disposition and great piety who entered cordially into the religious views and schemes of her husband.  They not only attended the ministrations of the settled Protestant clergy, but for some time maintained a chaplain of their own family." (page 552)
William and Mary Quarterly, Volume XII (1903) pp. 45-47 by Lyon G. Tyler vies the names of two sons, John and Charles.  "While his second son, Sir Thomas Fleming, is said to have emigrated to the Virginia colony and became the progentiro fhte Virginia branch of the family.  Mr. Brock states ('Richmond Standard,' Feb. 7, 1880) that he married Miss Tarleton and had Tartleton, John and Charles.  Mr. Brock's information it is believed, is derived from family tradition.  There is, nevertheless, no mention as far as I have been able to ascertian in the records of Virginia, of any Sir Thomas Fleming.  The earliest person of the name was John Fleming, who I am inclined to believe was the emigrant". (Lyon G. Tyler)

[Cary-Estes Genealogy pp. 85-87]

Lilias = daughter of

16 John Graham, third Earl of Montrose (1548- Nov. 9, 1608), Chancellor of the University of St. Andrews 1599-1604  md.  Joan Drummond

According to Wikipedia: "John Graham, 3rd Earl of Montrose (1548 – 9 November 1608) was a Scottish peer and Chancellor of the University of St Andrews from 1599 to 1604.
He was a natural great-grandson of King James IV of Scotland, his maternal grandmother, Janet Fleming, being a royal bastard."

According to Cary-Estes Genealogy p. 85: Joan "dau. of David Drummond, Second and Lord, and Lilias Ruthven; son of Walter Drummond; son of William Drummond and Isabel Campbell, dau. of Colin Campbell, Earl of Argyle; son of Sir John Drummond and Eliza Lindsey." [Her line]

John = son of

17 Robert Graham, Master of Montrose (d. Sept. 10, 1547 at Pinkie, Scotland)  md. Margaret Fleming (d. Aug. 15, 1584)  [Her line]

[Cary-Estes p. 85 Robert Graham md. Margaret Fleming, d. 1547

According to thePeerage.com: "Robert Graham, Master of Montrose was the son of William Graham, 2nd Earl of Montrose and Lady Janet Keith. He died on 10 September 1547 at Pinkie, Scotland.
     Robert Graham, Master of Montrose was styled as Master of Montrose."

Robert = son of

18  Lady Janet Keith md. William Graham, second Earl of Montrose (1492-1571) [His line]

[Cary-Estes p. 85 Jane Keith md. William Graham, Second Earl of Montrose]

Janet = daughter of

19 William Keith 2nd Earl Marischal md. Lady Elizabeth or Eliza Gordon [Her line]

[Cary-Estes p. 85 Eliza Gordon md. William Keith]

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