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1 Adela Rose Seltzer b. Nov. 9, 2007
daughter of
2 Robert Richard Hartley Seltzer b. July 29, 1975 md. Aug. 10,
2002 in Boston, MA Stacey Denenberg b. July 18, 1976
2 Heather Katherine Hartley Seltzer b. August 13, 1977
2 Michael Richard Hartley Seltzer b. June 14, 1980
2 Timothy Richard Hartley Seltzer b. Oct. 5, 1989
children of
3 Richard Warren Seltzer, Jr. b. Feb. 23, 1946, md. July 28, 1973 in Boston, MABarbara Hartley b. Feb. 20, 1950
Richard = son of
4 Helen Estes b. Jan. 31, 1920 md. June 5, 1944 in Philadelphia, PA Richard Warren Seltzer, Sr. b. June 5, 1923
Helen = daughter of
5 Smith William Estes b. June 17, 1881 d. 1943 md. in Philadelphia, PA 1905 May Griffith (1883-1930)
Smith = son of
6 Louis Powhatan Estes (Nov. 22, 1849 - Sept. 6, 1902) md. Oct. 30, 1875 Lily Yates Moore (May 13, 1853 - March 8, 1929) (daughter of S.W. Moore and Mary Yates)
Louis = son of
7 Albert Monroe Estes (Nov. 19, 1804 in Bedford County, VA - Dec. 22, 1863 in Haywood County, TN) md. Nov. 17, 1848 Mildred Colman (daughter of Dr. Benjamin Colman and Mildred Wharton of New Jersey) (c. 1823- Nov. 30, 1849)
Albert = son of
8 Sarah Langhorne Bates (1781- 1825 near Brownsville, Haywood County, TN) md. Oct. 13, 1801 in Chesterfield County, VA Joel Estes (1780-1833) (son of Benjamin Estes and Cecelia Rebecca Thorpe)
Sarah = daughter of
9 Daniel Bates (July 6, 1756 - c. 1801) md. May 21, 1776 in Chesterfield County, VA Elizabeth Cary Bell ( b. about 1758 in Virginia, d. 1825 in Kentucky) daughter of David Bell and Judith Cary
Daniel = son of
10 James Bates (March 7, 1721 - Nov. 9, 1786) md. Nov. 11, 1746 in Goochland County, St. James Wortham parish, VA Winnifred Grymes or Grimes or Hix (b. Jan. 18, 1729 in Goochland)
James = son of
11 Susannah Tarleton Fleming md. about 1709 John Bates (1685-1723)
Susannah = daughter of
12 Charles Fleming (b. 1667) (of New Kent County, VA) md. Susannah Tarleton (d. 1687) (daughter of Stephen Tarleton)
Charles = son of
13 John Fleming (? may have emigrated from England to Virginia d. April 27, 1686 in New Kent County, VA, St. Peter's Parish Register) According to "Fleming Family" by Lyon G. Tyler, William and MaryQuarterly Vol. 12, 1093, pp. 45-47, "I think he was the father of Charles Fleming who md. Susannah ___. She was probably a daughter of Stephen Tarleton." John Fliming, 493 acres in New Kent County on south side of Yorke River 2 march 1661 per page 397 Parent Book No. 4.
Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, Vol.XLV (1937) p. 64 "Judith Fleming was daughter of Charles Fleming and Susannah Tarleton. The first of her family in Virginia was Thomas Fleming who md. Miss Tarleton of England (of the same famly as Colonel Banastre Tarlton, the noted British Cavalry officer of the time of the American Revolution) and emigrated to Virginia in 1616. he left three sons and several daugthers. The sons were Tarleton, John, and Charles." p. 95 "Elizabeth Champe md. William Fleming; he was the son of Colon John Fleming (1697-1766) of 'Mount Pleasant' and Mary Kennon Bolling of 'Cobbs,' and the gradson of Charles Fleming ( b. 1667) who ws third in descent from Sir John Fleming who was the first Earl of Wigton in Scotland."
[Cary-Estes Genealogy pp. 86-87, which notes "This genealogy from Judith [Fleming] to Lilias Graham was secured by Mr. E.s. Lewis, Genealogist, 1937."]
John = son of
14 Thomas Fleming (?emigrated from England to Virginia in 1616) md. Miss Tarleton of England
Thomas = son of
15 Lilias Graham md. Lord
John Fleming
(1567-1619) 6th Lord Fleming,
first Earl of Wigton in Scotland from 1606 [His
line]
"Biggar and the House of Fleming" by William Hunter, F.S.a. Scot. Pages
551-552, 557:
"Lord Fleming married Lady Lilias Graham, a daughter of John, Earl
of Montrose. Her ladyship was distinguished for her piety and devotion
and her zealous efforts to prmoote the principles of the Reformation.
Livingstone, in his 'Characterisitcs' says of her, 'When I was a child
I have often seen her at my father's at the preachings and communions.
While dressing she read the Bible, and every day at that time shed more
tears (said one) than ever I did in my life.'"
"The Earl died in April 1619 leaving three sons and five daughters
and was succeeded by his eldes son John who warmly embraced his mother's
ecclesiastical opinions and was as zealous of the cause of Presbyterianism
as his forefathers had been in the maintenance of Popery.
"He married Margaret, daughter of Alexander Livingstone, first Earl
of Linlithgow, a lady of amiable disposition and great piety who entered
cordially into the religious views and schemes of her husband. They
not only attended the ministrations of the settled Protestant clergy, but
for some time maintained a chaplain of their own family." (page 552)
William and Mary Quarterly, Volume XII (1903) pp. 45-47 by Lyon G.
Tyler vies the names of two sons, John and Charles. "While his second
son, Sir Thomas Fleming, is said to have emigrated to the Virginia colony
and became the progentiro fhte Virginia branch of the family. Mr.
Brock states ('Richmond Standard,' Feb. 7, 1880) that he married Miss Tarleton
and had Tartleton, John and Charles. Mr. Brock's information it is
believed, is derived from family tradition. There is, nevertheless,
no mention as far as I have been able to ascertian in the records of Virginia,
of any Sir Thomas Fleming. The earliest person of the name was John
Fleming, who I am inclined to believe was the emigrant". (Lyon G. Tyler)
[Cary-Estes Genealogy pp. 85-87]
Lilias = daughter of
16 John Graham, third Earl of Montrose (1548- Nov. 9, 1608), Chancellor of the University of St. Andrews 1599-1604 md. Joan Drummond
According to Wikipedia: "John Graham, 3rd Earl of Montrose (1548 – 9
November 1608) was a Scottish peer and Chancellor of the University of
St Andrews from 1599 to 1604.
He was a natural great-grandson of King James IV of Scotland, his maternal
grandmother, Janet Fleming, being a royal bastard."
According to Cary-Estes Genealogy p. 85: Joan "dau. of David Drummond, Second and Lord, and Lilias Ruthven; son of Walter Drummond; son of William Drummond and Isabel Campbell, dau. of Colin Campbell, Earl of Argyle; son of Sir John Drummond and Eliza Lindsey." [Her line]
John = son of
17 Robert Graham, Master of Montrose (d. Sept. 10, 1547 at Pinkie, Scotland) md. Margaret Fleming (d. Aug. 15, 1584) [Her line]
[Cary-Estes p. 85 Robert Graham md. Margaret Fleming, d. 1547
According to thePeerage.com: "Robert Graham, Master of Montrose was
the son of William Graham, 2nd Earl of Montrose and Lady Janet Keith. He
died on 10 September 1547 at Pinkie, Scotland.
Robert Graham, Master of Montrose was styled
as Master of Montrose."
Robert = son of
18 Lady Janet Keith md. William Graham, second Earl of Montrose (1492-1571) [His line]
[Cary-Estes p. 85 Jane Keith md. William Graham, Second Earl of Montrose]
Janet = daughter of
19 Lady Elizabeth or Eliza Gordon md. William Keith 2nd Earl Marischal [Her line]
[Cary-Estes p. 85 Eliza Gordon md. William Keith]
Eliza = daughter of
20 Annabella Stewart (1433-1471) md. George Gordon, Earl of Huntly (before 1455-1501), Chancellor of Scotland (1498-1501) [His line]
[Cary-Estes p. 85 Annabelle md. George Gordon, Earl of Huntly]
Annabella = daughter of
21 Joan Beaufort (1404-1445) md. 1424 King James I of Scotland (Stewart) (1394-1437) [His line]
[Cary-Estes p. 85 Joan Beaufort md. James I, King of Scotland]
Joan = daughter of
22 Margaret Holland (1385-1439) md. John Beaufort, first Earl of Someset (1371-1410) (His line)
[Cary-Estes p. 85 Margaret Holland md. John Beaufort, Marquis of Dorsett, Earl of Somerset, Knight of the Garter]
Margaret = daughter of
23 Thomas Holland, 2nd Earl of Kent (1350 - April 25, 1397), councillor of his half-brother King Richard II md. Alice FitzAlan , daughter of Richard FitzAlan, 10th Earl of Arundel and Eleanor of Lancaster
[Cary-Estes p. 85 Thomas Holand md. Alice FitzAlan, daughter of Richard, Ninth Earl of Arundel]
Thomas = son of
24 Joan "the Fair Maid of Kent", granddaughter of Edward I of England, wife of Edward the Black Prince and mother of Richard II of England md. Thomas Holland, 1st Earl Earl of Kent (c. 1314 - Dec. 26, 1360) military commander during the Hundred Years' War [His line]
[Cary-Estes p. 84 Joan of Kent md. Thomas Holand]
Joan = daughter of
25 Edmund of Woodstock, 1st Earl of Kent (Plantagenet) (Aug. 5, 1301 - March 19, 1330 executed for treason) md. Margaret Wake, (c. 1297 - Sept. 29, 1349) 3rd Baroness Wake, descendant of Llywelyn the Great, Prince of Gwynedd [Her line]
[Cary-Estes p. 84 Edward of Woodstock md. Margaret Wake (d. 1330)]
Edmund = son of
26 King Edward I of England "Longshanks" (June 14, 1229 - July 7, 1307) reigned 1272-1307) md. Marguerite of France (1282 - Feb. 14, 1317), daughter of King Philip III of France md. Maria of Brabant [Her line]
[Cary-Estes p. 84 Margaret md. Edward I King of England]
Edward = son of
27 Henry III, King of England (Plantagenet) (1207-1272) reigned 1216-1272) md. Eleanor of Provence (c. 1223-1291) (daughter of Ramon Berenguer IV, Count of Provence (1198-1245) and Beatrice of Savoy (1206-1266)) [Her line]
Henry = son of
28 John I, "Lackland," King of England (Plantagenet) [Magna Carta] (1166-1216) reigned 1199-1216) md. Isabella of Angoulême (1187-1246) (daughter of Aymer Taillefer, Count of Angouleme) [Her line]
John = son of
29 Henry II, King of England (Plantagenet) (1133-1189) reigned 1154-1189) md. Eleanor of Aquitaine (1122-1204) (daughter of William X, Duke of Aquitaine, and duchess, Aenor de Châtellerault) [Her line]
Henry = son of
30 Geoffrey V Count of Anjou and Maine by inheritance, and Duke of Normandy by conquest 1144 the Handsome (Plantagenet) (Aug. 24, 1113 - Sept. 7 1151) md. Empress Matilda (1102-1110), briefly (contested) the first female ruler of England in 1141 (widow of Henry V Holy Roman Emperor) [Her line]
Geoffrey = son of
31 Fulk V of Anjou AKA Fulk the Younger, (1089/1092 - Nov. 13, 1143) Count of Anjou 1109-1129 and King of Jerusalem 1131-1143 went on Crusade in 1120 and became a close friend of the Knights Templar md. Eremburga of La Fleche, daughter of Elias I of Maine md. Matilda, daugther of Gervais, Lord of Chateau-du-Loir [Her line]
Fulk = son of
32 Fulk IV AKA le Réchin (1043-1109) Count of Anjou 1068-1109 md. Bertrade de Monfort, who later destered her husband and bigamously married King Philip I, she was the daughter of Simon of Monfort [Her line]
Fulk = son of
33 Geoffrey Count of Gatinais (AKA Aubri) md. Ermengarde
of Anjou, daughter of Fulk the Black, Count of Anjou, [Her line]
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