Ancestor surfing

The line Seltzer-Estes-Bates-Fleming-Graham-Keith-Gordon/Seton-Stewart-Beaufort/Plantagenet-Hainault-Valois/Capet(25)

41 generations back to 800 in France.

Includes Kings of France from Robert II to Philip III, reigned from 996 to 1285.

Includes Duke Hugh (generation 37). In the Divine Comedy Dante meets the soul of Duke Hugh in Purgatory, lamenting the avarice of his descendants.

Introduction about "ancestor surfing" (using Wikipedia to help track your ancestors)

1 Adela Rose Seltzer b. Nov. 9, 2007

daughter of

2 Robert Richard Hartley Seltzer b. July 29, 1975 md.  Aug. 10, 2002 in Boston, MA Stacey Denenberg b. July 18, 1976
2 Heather Katherine Hartley Seltzer b. August 13, 1977
2 Michael Richard Hartley Seltzer b. June 14, 1980
2 Timothy Richard Hartley Seltzer b. Oct. 5, 1989

children of

3 Richard Warren Seltzer, Jr. b. Feb. 23, 1946, md. July 28, 1973 in Boston, MABarbara Hartley b. Feb. 20, 1950

Richard = son of

4 Helen Estes b. Jan. 31, 1920 md. June 5, 1944 in Philadelphia, PA Richard Warren Seltzer, Sr. b. June 5, 1923

Helen = daughter of

5 Smith William Estes  b. June 17, 1881 d. 1943 md. in Philadelphia, PA  1905 May Griffith (1883-1930)

Smith = son of

6 Louis Powhatan Estes (Nov. 22, 1849 - Sept. 6, 1902) md. Oct. 30, 1875 Lily Yates Moore (May 13, 1853 - March 8, 1929) (daughter of S.W. Moore and Mary Yates)

Louis = son of

7 Albert Monroe Estes (Nov. 19, 1804 in Bedford County, VA - Dec. 22, 1863 in Haywood County, TN) md. Nov. 17, 1848 Mildred Colman (daughter of Dr. Benjamin Colman and Mildred Wharton of New Jersey) (c. 1823- Nov. 30, 1849)

Albert = son of

8 Sarah Langhorne Bates (1781- 1825 near Brownsville, Haywood County, TN)  md. Oct. 13, 1801 in Chesterfield County, VA Joel Estes (1780-1833) (son of Benjamin Estes and Cecelia Rebecca Thorpe)

Sarah = daughter of

9 Daniel Bates (July 6, 1756 - c. 1801) md. May 21, 1776in Chesterfield County, VA  Elizabeth Cary Bell ( b. about 1758 in Virginia, d. 1825 in Kentucky) daughter of David Bell and Judith Cary

Daniel = son of

10 James Bates (MaRCH 7, 1721 - nOV. 9, 1786) md. Nov. 11, 1746 in Goochland County, St. James Wortham parish, VA Winnifred Grymes or Grimes or Hix (b. Jan. 18, 1729 in Goochland)

James = son of

11 Susannah Tarleton Fleming md. about 1709 John Bates (1685-1723)

Susannah = daughter of

12 Charles Fleming (b. 1667) (of New Kent County, VA) md. Susannah Tarleton (d. 1687) (daughter of Stephen Tarleton)

Charles = son of

13 John Fleming (? may have emigrated from England to Virginia d. April 27, 1686 in New Kent County, VA, St. Peter's Parish Register) According to "Fleming Family" by Lyon G. Tyler, William and Mary Quarterly Vol. 12, 1093, pp. 45-47, "I think he was the father of Charles Fleming who md. Susannah ___.  She was probably a daughter of Stephen Tarleton."  John Fliming, 493 acres in New Kent County on south side of Yorke River 2 march 1661 per page 397 Parent Book No. 4.

Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, Vol.XLV (1937) p. 64 "Judith Fleming ws daugther of Charles Fleming and Susannah Tarleton.  The first of her fmaily in Virginia was Thomas Fleming who md. Miss Tarleton of England (of the same famly as Colonel Banastre Tarlton, the noted British Cavalry officer of the time of the American Revolution) and emigrated to Virginia in 1616.  he left three sons and several daugthers.  The sons were Tarleton, John, and Charles." p. 95 "Elizabeth Champe md. William Fleming; he was the son of Colon John Fleming (1697-1766) of 'Mount Pleasant' and Mary Kennon Bolling of 'Cobbs,' and the gradson of Charles Fleming ( b. 1667) who ws third in descent from Sir John Fleming who was the first Earl of Wigton in Scotland."

John = son of

14 Thomas Fleming (?emigrated from England to Virginia in 1616) md. Miss Tarleton of England

Thomas = son of

15 Lilias Graham md. Lord John Fleming (1567-1619) 6th Lord Fleming,  first Earl of Wigton in Scotland from 1606 [His line]
"Biggar and the House of Fleming" by William Hunter, F.S.a. Scot. Pages 551-552, 557:
"Lord Fleming married Lady Lilias Graham, a daughter of John, Earl of Montrose.  Her ladyship was distinguished for her piety and devotion and her zealous efforts to prmoote the principles of the Reformation.  Livingstone, in his 'Characterisitcs' says of her, 'When I was a child I have often seen her at my father's at the preachings and communions.  While dressing she read the Bible, and every day at that time shed more tears (said one) than ever I did in my life.'"
"The Earl died in April 1619 leaving three sons and five daughters and was succeeded by his eldes son John who warmly embraced his mother's ecclesiastical opinions and was as zealous of the cause of Presbyterianism as his forefathers had been in the maintenance of Popery.
"He married Margaret, daughter of Alexander Livingstone, first Earl of Linlithgow, a lady of amiable disposition and great piety who entered cordially into the religious views and schemes of her husband.  They not only attended the ministrations of the settled Protestant clergy, but for some time maintained a chaplain of their own family." (page 552)
William and Mary Quarterly, Volume XII (1903) pp. 45-47 by Lyon G. Tyler vies the names of two sons, John and Charles.  "While his second son, Sir Thomas Fleming, is said to have emigrated to the Virginia colony and became the progentiro fhte Virginia branch of the family.  Mr. Brock states ('Richmond Standard,' Feb. 7, 1880) that he married Miss Tarleton and had Tartleton, John and Charles.  Mr. Brock's information it is believed, is derived from family tradition.  There is, nevertheless, no mention as far as I have been able to ascertian in the records of Virginia, of any Sir Thomas Fleming.  The earliest perosn of the name was John fleming, who I am inclined to believe was the emigrant". (Lyon G. Tyler)Lilias = daughter of

16 John Graham, third Earl of Montrose (1548-1608), Chancellor of the University of St. Andrews 1599-1604  md.  Joan Drummond

John = son of

17 Robert Graham md. Margaret Fleming d. 1547 [Her line]

Robert = son of

18  Lady Janet Keith md. William Graham, second Earl of Montrose (1492-1571) [His line]

Janet = daughter of

19  Lady Elizabeth or Eliza Gordon md. William Keith 2nd Earl Marischal

Eliza = daughter of

20 Annabella Stewart (1433-1471) md. George Gordon, Earl of Huntly (before 1455-1501), Chancellor of Scotland (1498-1501) [His line]

Annabella = daughter of

21  Joan Beaufort (1404-1445) md. 1424  King James I of Scotland (Stewart) (1394-1437) [His line]

Joan = daughter of

22 John Beaufort, first Earl of Someset (1371-1410) md. Margaret Holland (1385-1439) (daughter of Thomas Holland, 2nd Earl of Kent, who was the son of Joan "the Fair Maid of Kent", granddaughter of Edward I of England, wife of Edward the Black Prince and mother of Richard II of England) [Her line]

John = son of

23 John of Gaunt (Plantagenet), First Duke of Lancaster (1340-1399) md. Katherine Swynford (1350-1403) (daughter of Payne de Roet a Flemish herald from Hainault) [John was born before they were married]

Richard II was his nephew
King Henry IV was his son

John = son of

24 Philippa of Hainault (1314-1369)  md.  King Edward III of England  (Nov. 13, 1312 - June 21, 1377) reigned 1327-1377 [His line]

Philippa = daughter of

25  Jeanne of Valois (1292-1342) md. 1305 William I Count of Hainault  (1286-1337) [His line]

Jeanne = daughter of

26 Charles of Valois (1270-1325) md. Marguerite of Anjou and Maine (1273-1299)

their son became Philip VI King of France
their nephews became Louis X, Philip V, and Charles IV, kings of France

Charles = son of

27 King Philip III "the Bold" of France (Capet) (1245-1285), reigned 1270-1285 md. Isabella of Aragon (1247-1271) [Her line]
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Philip = son of

28 King Louis IX of France (Capet) "Saint Louis" of the Crusades (1214-1270), reigned 1226-1270 md. 1234 Marguerite of Provence (1221-1295)(sister of Eleanor, wife of Henry III King of England) [Her line]

Louis = son of

29 King Louis VIII of France (Capet) (1187-1226) reigned 1223-1226) md. 1200 Blanche of Castile (1188-1252) [Her line]

Louis = son of

30 King Philip II Augustus of France (Capet) (1165-1223) reigned 1180-1223) md. Isabelle of Hainaut (1170-1190) [Her line]

Philip = son of

31 King Louis VII King of France AKA "the Younger" (Capet) (1120-1180) md. Adela of Champagne (1140-1206) (daughter of Theobald II of Champagne and Matilda of Carinthnia) (= third wife) [Her line]

Louis = son of

32 King Louis VI of France (Capet) (1081-1127)  md. 1115 Adelaide of Savoy AKA Adelaide of Maurienne  (1092-1154) (daughter of Humbert II of Savoy and Gisela of Burgundy) [Her line]

Louis = son of

33 King Philip I of France (Capet) (1053-1108) reigned 1060-1108) md. Bertha of Holland (1055-1094), daughter of Floris I, Count of Holland, by his wife Gertrude of Saxony, the daughter of Bernard II, Duke of Saxony, [Her line]

Phliip = son of

34 King Henry I of France (Capet) (1008-1060) reigned 1031-1060) md. Anne of Kiev AKA Anna Yaroslavna (between 1024 and 1032 – 1075) (daughter of Yaroslav I King of Kiev and his wife Ingegerd Olofsdotter) [Her line]

Henry = son of

35 King Robert II of France (Capet) (972–1031) (Capet) reigned 996-1031 md. Constance of Arles (973–1032) daughter of William I, count of Provence and great-grandson of Charles-Constantine; and Adelais of Anjou, daughter of Fulk II of Anjou [Her line]

Robert = son of

36 King Hugh Capet of France (940-996) reigned 987-996 md. Adele AKA Adelaide of Aquitaine AKA Adelaide of Poitiers (c. 945 or 952 – 1004) daughter of William III of Aquitaine md. 935 Adele of Normandy b. 912 [Her line]

Hugh = son of

37 Hugh the Great, Duke of France (d. 956) md. Hedwige of Saxony (c. 910 - 965) (daughter of Henry I the Fowler, Duke of Saxony md. Matilda of Ringelheim.AKA Saint Matilda or Saint Mathilda) [Her line]

In the Divine Comedy Dante meets the soul of Duke Hugh in Purgatory, lamenting the avarice of his descendants.

Hugh = son of

38 Robert I (after September 866 – June 15, 923), king of West Francia (922 – 923) md. 895 (= second wife) Béatrice of Vermandois  (c. 880 – after March 26, 931) (daughter of Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 848/850 – 907)) [Her line]

Robert = son of

39 Robert IV "the Strong" AKA Rupert d. 866, Margrave in Neustria (now central France) md. Adelaide or Adalais (daughter of Hugh or Hugo, Count of Tours and Sens (780-837) during the reign of Charlemagne; he was probably a son of Count Haicho of the House of the Etichonen. )

Robert = son of

40 Robert III (died 822), Count of Worms and Rheingau

Robert = son of

41 Robert, Rodbert or Chrodobert, a Frank and duke of Hesbaye.



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